Episode 173

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10th Jul 2026

Strategy Before Marketing, AI Without Losing Yourself, and the Advice That Changed Everything: Gaynor Duthie of Genoa Black

In this episode of Scale HER Up, I'm joined by Gaynor Duthie, Managing Partner of Genoa Black — a strategy, brand and marketing consultancy with teams in Edinburgh, Glasgow, and now Los Angeles.

Gaynor joined Genoa Black on day three of its existence, worked for nothing in exchange for a promise of equity, became a partner in 2014, and has led the business to where it is today: 14 people, over 1,000 Scottish SMEs served, and an international expansion underway.Strategy, AI and the Advice That Unlocks Your Next Level | Gaynor Duthie | Scale HER Up

This is a conversation packed with honest reflections on leadership, growth, AI, boundaries and the advice that unlocked everything for Gaynor — early in her career, someone told her: "Don't do the job you've got. Do the job you want."

We cover:

- What Genoa Black does across its three divisions — strategy, brand and marketing — and why the order matters

- Why they never jump straight into marketing without brand clarity first

- How their strategy division was born out of COVID — and why it's now a core part of what they do

- The partnership model: how bringing in the right business partners transformed the business

- Gaynor's extraordinary journey from working for nothing on day three to managing partner

- The best piece of advice she ever received — "Don't do the job you've got, do the job you want"

- Why people management has always been the hardest part — and how she's learned to lead through conflict

- AI: embracing it without relying on it — and why emotional intelligence matters just as much as artificial intelligence

- Growth isn't just headcount — efficiency, profitability and culture all count

- The LA expansion: how a relationship with chef Curtis Stone opened the door

- Why she went almost 12 years without an out of office — and what changed

- "I didn't come this far to only come this far"

Quote of the episode: "Emotional intelligence is just as important as artificial intelligence." — Gaynor Duthie

If you're leading a business, thinking about your next step, or wondering how to keep growing without burning out — this one's for you.

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Scale Her Up: Female business stories and expert tips for business growth and success
The Female Entrepreneur Show. Sharing business expertise, start-up experiences and business growth strategies to overcome challenges
If you are a female business owner, self-employed freelancer, or girl boss who wants to build a successful business i.e. work less hours, make more money, and get better results from your staff, then this is the podcast for you. Hosted by Dr Brenda Hector MBA from ActionCOACH UK, this podcast provides relatable and accessible business advice and inspiration from successful businesswomen who have been there and done it before you.

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I’m Brenda Hector — entrepreneur, business coach, podcast host and writer — and I help ambitious female business owners turn hard work into real results: higher profits, better team performance, and more time back.
If your business relies too heavily on you, growth feels messy, or you’re “successful on paper” but exhausted in real life, you’re not alone — and it’s fixable. My work is about building a business that performs consistently, develops leaders, and supports you to step up and step back when you choose.
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